We're a long time SQL Anywhere+Delphi development shop. A lot of our developers have come up with their own simple implementations of how to manage the version of a SQL Anywhere database schema with its related delphi application(s). However we're wanting to standardise how we do this, so thought we'd use this fantasic resource. By manage, I mean:
So, what do other SQL Anywhere developers use to version control their schema? asked 24 Feb '10, 00:59 Nick Brooks Breck Carter |
We use PowerDesigner to manage the schema. The CDM and PDM Files are in a classical CVS Repository. Each Procedures, Function and View is stored a SQL Script. Changes to the Database are always done by a update script. This scipt uses the All sql scripts are hold in a CVS Repository. When we release a new version of the client Application we tag the Scripts and the PD Files in the CVS with the client version they are intended for. Update_x_zzz.sql
The function We write the DDL manually based on the PDM but you can also use the DDL Script Power Designer can generate and embed them by answered 24 Feb '10, 07:23 Thomas Dueme... Thanks for the answer TDuemesnil. How do you get the changes into the sql script? Does each developer do it manually? And what if there are versioning issues with a PowerDesigner schema when it comes time to commit it to your CVS repo? Each Developer works on his own update main script. When he has finished his work he has to checkout all changes done by others. We use http://winmerge.org/ and http://www.tortoisecvs.org to check for conflicts in changes. Then he can finalize his update script and check in all changes. PowerDesigner has its own Compare and Merge Model possibilities. You have to have the old and new version available to use them. As you use subversion you know http://tortoisesvn.net ? Sure and we use that. You indicated you have multiple update scripts which are applied to the db. How do you know in which order to run the script as there could be dependencies among the different scripts? |
We use PowerDesigner too (PDM). For every build of our software there is a corresponding physical model, checked in using SourceSafe. We let PowerDesigner create differential DDL scripts to modify databases according to the changed model. For updates we bundle the necessary scripts with a master script, that READs them im chronological order and checks against a column in a version table if it's ok to apply the changes. For our new product line though we took another approach: all schema information is defined by meta data within the framework. Version informations including the data model are stored for each client version. For updates a wizard automatically creates all SQL statements for the target DBMS to update the client's db to the current model and generates an installer. answered 24 Feb '10, 10:33 Reimer Pods Thanks for your answer Reimer. We've never used PowerDesigner and Sybase's website is, well, less than clear. It appears to be targeted more towards your PHB. Can you script PowerDesigner to create those DDL change scripts? Part of this exercise is to also automate as much as possible. Comment Text Removed
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Nick, I'm not really a PD expert and can't answer that question. You might want to post your question in the newsgroup sybase.public.powerdesigner.general. Generating an update script from the differences of two models is easily done with a few clicks. As we don't do that more than once or twice a month we never considered automation. |
Since we develop 'package' software to be deployed to multiple sites, we implement schema changes via a script file to insure it is easily repeatable; the last line in that script updates a schema version setting (a particular row in a "settings" table). We maintain an "expected schema version number" in our app and check that against the "schema version" in the db at app startup. answered 24 Feb '10, 02:58 Bill Aumen |
What program are you using to make the schema changes? DO you have a source control provider you are using with Delphi code? answered 24 Feb '10, 14:54 Roland Smith Hi Roland. We generally just use Sybase Central to make the changes, however a lot of the developers then cut'n'paste the changes to a db update script. We use subversion as a VCS. Wooops - that should read "copy'n'paste". Congratulations to Roland: The first SQLA user to use an "Answer" to ask a question. I don't think that's going to become common practice BUT I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. In this case Roland's question is larger in scope than the usual question-about-a-question that's posted as a comment to the original question. Anyway, SQLA ain't StackOverflow... over there, you get tarred and feathered for deviating from The Rules :) @Nick: You can edit a comment by deleting-and-re-adding it. And you delete a comment by clicking on the X which appears when you hover over the comment text. I'll try not to Answer by posting a Question. |
We use PowerDesigner first off. Unfortunately, we don't have the Repository feature, so we handle the 'versioning' with good'ole Copy+Paste of the PDM file. We then have our application version stored in the database, and then when the application connects, it compares. It has its faults, but it works out pretty well in the end. answered 24 Feb '10, 01:55 Calvin Allen |